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From the State of Nature to Sovereignty: Thucydidean Foundations of Hobbesian Realism through the Melian Dialogue

Year 2025, Volume: 9 Issue: 1, 14 - 22, 30.06.2025
https://izlik.org/JA84LM24FX

Abstract

Many critics argue that the early modern political philosopher Thomas Hobbes offers his readers a “framework” that strictly governs the creation of social and political obligation and that Hobbes himself fails to provide a “consistently adhered to and well-defined” set of rules that put those obligations into practice. Hobbes' political theory is reexamined in this work, which shows that his insistence on the unrestricted transfer of infinite subjects' right to self-defense from commonwealth-free installer action by commonwealth sovereigns is either unnecessary or invalid. His published works provide a wealth of evidence supporting this interpretation. This study is going to discuss the life of Thomas Hobbes, state of nature, social contract, realism, and introduction, and emphasize the key moments and thoughts on Thomas Hobbes and his realist ideas. The study, at first, will provide a general evaluation of the life of Thomas Hobbes. Then it will discuss the concept of the state of nature, given Hobbes's idea of man and the state of nature, the formation of Leviathan and the law of nature. Afterwards, Melian Dialog will be analyzed from the realist perspective. The conclusion will summarize the intent of the study.

References

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  • Cambridge University Press. (n.d.). International relations in political thought. Retrieved April 17, 2025, from https://www.cambridge.org/highereducation/books/international-relations-in-political-thought/CBD9CE3F99D92DB128DECAB1AAC82B0D#overview
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  • Curran, J. (2019). Triple crisis of journalism. Journalism, 20(1), 190–193. https://doi.org/10.1177/1464884918807034
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  • Hobbes, T. (1651). Leviathan or the matter, form and power of a commonwealth ecclesiastical and civil (1st ed.). Andrew Crooke.
  • Hobbes, T. (1651). Leviathan or the matter, form and power of a commonwealth ecclesiastical and civil (1st ed., Chapter 14). Andrew Crooke.
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  • LitCharts. (n.d.). Leviathan Chapter 13 Summary & Analysis. Retrieved April 17, 2025, from https://www.litcharts.com/lit/leviathan/chapter-13-of-the-naturall-condition-of-mankind-as-concerning-their-felicity-and-misery
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  • Seau, S. (2013). The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must. Return of Kings. https://logosjournal.com/between-the-issues/do-the-strong-suffer-when-they-do-what-they-want/
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  • The School of Life. (2015). Political theory: Thomas Hobbes [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i4jb5XBX5s&t=18s
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Doğa Durumundan Egemenliğe: Melian Diyaloğu Üzerinden Hobbesçu Realizmin Tukididesçi Temelleri

Year 2025, Volume: 9 Issue: 1, 14 - 22, 30.06.2025
https://izlik.org/JA84LM24FX

Abstract

Many critics argue that the early modern political philosopher Thomas Hobbes offers his readers a “framework” that strictly governs the creation of social and political obligation and that Hobbes himself fails to provide a “consistently adhered to and well-defined” set of rules that put those obligations into practice. Hobbes' political theory is reexamined in this work, which shows that his insistence on the unrestricted transfer of infinite subjects' right to self-defense from commonwealth-free installer action by commonwealth sovereigns is either unnecessary or invalid. His published works provide a wealth of evidence supporting this interpretation. This study is going to discuss the life of Thomas Hobbes, Nature Situation and Social Contract, Realism, Introduction emphasize the key moments and thoughts on Thomas Hobbes and his realist ideas. The body, at first, will give a general evaluation of the life of Thomas Hobbes, then it will try to discuss the concept of the state of nature, Given Hobbes's idea of man and the state of nature, the formation of Leviathan and the law of nature, Afterwards, Melian Dialog will be analyzed from the realist perspective. The result will summarize the intent of the study.

References

  • Aydın, M. (2004). Uluslararası ilişkilerin “gerçekçi” teorisi: Kökeni, kapsamı, kritiği. Uluslararası İlişkiler Konseyi Derneği, 33–60. http://www.uidergisi.com.tr/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Uluslararasi-Iliskilerin-Gercekci-Teorisi.pdf
  • Britannica. (n.d.). Thomas Hobbes. Retrieved April 17, 2025, from https://www.britannica.com/biography/Thomas-Hobbes
  • Brown, C., Nardin, T., & Rengger, N. (Eds.). (2002). International relations in political thought. Cambridge University Press.
  • Cambridge University Press. (n.d.). International relations in political thought. Retrieved April 17, 2025, from https://www.cambridge.org/highereducation/books/international-relations-in-political-thought/CBD9CE3F99D92DB128DECAB1AAC82B0D#overview
  • Chavura, S. (n.d.). The universes of Calvin and Hobbes: Towards an understanding of Calvin's anthropology and his political thought, pp. 37–40.
  • Curran, J. (2019). Triple crisis of journalism. Journalism, 20(1), 190–193. https://doi.org/10.1177/1464884918807034
  • Delemestre, G. (2014). Katherine Harloe et Neville Morlet (Eds.), Thucydides and the modern world: Reception, reinterpretation and influence from the Renaissance to the present. Anabases, 19, 349–351. https://doi.org/10.4000/anabases.4738
  • Greeson, M. P. (1994). Hobbes, Locke, and the state of nature theories: A reassessment. Episteme, 5(1), Article 2. https://digitalcommons.denison.edu/episteme/vol5/iss1/2
  • Hobbes, T. (1651). Leviathan or the matter, form and power of a commonwealth ecclesiastical and civil (1st ed.). Andrew Crooke.
  • Hobbes, T. (1651). Leviathan or the matter, form and power of a commonwealth ecclesiastical and civil (1st ed., Chapter 14). Andrew Crooke.
  • Hobbes, T. (2022). Thomas Hobbes’s translation of ‘The Plague of Athens’ (Thuc. 2.47.2–54): A first critical edition. Histos, 16, 166–213.
  • Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy. (n.d.). Thomas Hobbes: Moral and political philosophy. Retrieved April 17, 2025, from https://iep.utm.edu/hobmoral/
  • Korab-Karpowicz, W. (2010). Political realism in international relations. Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy. https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/realism-intl-relations/
  • LitCharts. (n.d.). Leviathan Chapter 13 Summary & Analysis. Retrieved April 17, 2025, from https://www.litcharts.com/lit/leviathan/chapter-13-of-the-naturall-condition-of-mankind-as-concerning-their-felicity-and-misery
  • Project Gutenberg. (n.d.). Leviathan by Thomas Hobbes. Retrieved April 17, 2025, from https://gutenberg.org/files/3207/3207-h/3207-h.htm
  • Seau, S. (2013). The strong do what they can, and the weak suffer what they must. Return of Kings. https://logosjournal.com/between-the-issues/do-the-strong-suffer-when-they-do-what-they-want/
  • Şahin, B. (2017). Egemen Devlet: Hobbes & Leviathan (Siyaset Felsefesine Giriş-12,13,14) [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaZG4lg9uMY&t=5022s
  • The School of Life. (2015). Political theory: Thomas Hobbes [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i4jb5XBX5s&t=18s
  • Yale University Press. (2013, April 5). Thomas Hobbes: Solitary, poor, nasty, brutish and short. YaleBooksBlog. https://yalebooksblog.co.uk/2013/04/05/thomas-hobbes-solitary-poor-nasty-brutish-and-short/
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Primary Language English
Subjects International Security
Journal Section Research Article
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Melek Adsız 0000-0001-7612-3400

Submission Date April 21, 2025
Acceptance Date June 27, 2025
Publication Date June 30, 2025
IZ https://izlik.org/JA84LM24FX
Published in Issue Year 2025 Volume: 9 Issue: 1

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APA Adsız, M. (2025). From the State of Nature to Sovereignty: Thucydidean Foundations of Hobbesian Realism through the Melian Dialogue. Ulisa: Uluslararası Çalışmalar Dergisi, 9(1), 14-22. https://izlik.org/JA84LM24FX
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